Friday, May 27, 2022

202 Dalmatians (That is to say, 101 Dalmatian Double Feature!)

11:36 AM · Jun 27, 2021 "the purge exists in 101 dalmatians, not the weirdest thing about the canon"

Content Warning for animal abuse and child abuse in this one. 101 Dalmatian Street is a hell of a show.

These shows are very different. The setting is different. The characters are different. They have a couple things in common about them though: A huge cast, a very specific style that's amazing to look at, Cruella de Vil as the main villain, and the fact that they're both mid as hell.

11:14 AM · Jun 27, 2021 "i listened to the two dalmatians themes back to back and i really like that they have kind of a similar style about them but are distinct."

Also listen to the theme songs for these shows they're probably my favorites so far aside from Rescue Rangers. And they show off the styles of the shows pretty well, which are by far the strengths of each of them.

101 Dalmatians the Series follows the adventures of the American Now Dalmatians, as they move to a farm after Nanny gets mugged on a walk.

3:57 PM · Dec 26, 2020 "ok im onto 101 dalmatians now (i'll come back to the last 4 eps of nightmare ned in a bit) and uhhhh who mugs the woman walking 99 dogs?"
6:03 PM · Dec 26, 2020
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worth noting this may qualify as an au show. this is the au where roger and anita move to the farm because nanny got mugged"

101 Dalmatian Street takes place in the same universe as the movie I presume, taking place in modern day England with the descendants of the Pongo and Perdita, Delilah, and her family. Including her husband Doug, and the main characters: Dolly and Dylan.

11:24 AM · Jun 27, 2021 "i think it's funny that all the dogs are british except for mark beaks and amethyst"

This trend of descendants or ancestors is something we see a lot of with modern Disney Properties, which on one hand makes me angry because they could just make an original series, but on the other hand they're so fucking good so often. The 7D (focusing on the ancestors of the seven dwarves) is great. The Rocketeer (focusing on the great-granddaughter of Cliff Second) is great. I'm really looking forward to Alice's Wonderland Bakery.

101 Dalmatians the Series however is about the titular dogs. Instead of focusing on Pongo and Perdita, the protagonists of the movie, the show focuses on Lucky, Cadpig, and Rolly, three of the original litter (and characters from the original novel if I recall correctly). Their personalities are Leader, Hippie, and Fat, respectively. Though I guess it says a lot that the girl of the trio, Cadpig, has better characterization then the boys, but I still wasn't keen on her.

4:09 PM · Dec 26, 2020 "god cadpig is annoying"

The show usually focuses on the 15 original puppies, since that's easier, but the main cast also has another addition, a dalmatian named Spot.

 [Image ID: A screencap of Spot, from 101 Dalmatians, a creature that appears to be a chicken with spots, but is a Dalmatian. /End ID]
She's so transgender with it and I'm not kidding.

5:15 PM · Dec 26, 2020 "spot transed her gender good for her"

[Image ID: A TVTropes Screencap, which reads "Does This Remind You of Anything?: One Spot-centric episode centers around her desire to be a dog as opposed to a chicken. This greatly offends her mother who tries to force Spot to engage in typical chicken activities like egg-sitting. Then there's her self-description as a dog in a chicken's body." /End ID]



5:27 PM · Dec 26, 2020 "ok which of you is kinning the trans chicken?"
5:32 PM · Dec 26, 2020
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they have not mentioned the fact that spot wants to be a dog at all in the show..... she just showed up...."
3:27 PM · Dec 27, 2020 "spot the dalmatian
scott the human boy
dare i say....."

They're actually surprisingly cool with it too. Spot is seen as one of the dogs, sometimes raising eyebrows amongst family, but Spot is true to herself, and its seen as a really good thing. I think out of all the animal trans metaphors, she's probably one of the better ones.

It's funny because 101 Dalmatian Street also has a few of these.

[Image ID: A screencap of Deepak from 101 Dalmatian Street, a creature who resembles a dalmatian but identifies strongly with cats /End ID]
 

9:28 PM · Jun 27, 2021 "WAIT I JUST REALIZED DEEPAK IS THE TRANS REP IN 101 DALMATIAN STREET"

The trans metaphor with Deepak isn't nearly as strong as it is with Spot, particularly because he's not a main character and doesn't get as much focus. However, Deepak strongly identifies with cats, which is usually stepped on because "why would you be a cat," so he doesn't really embrace himself as much.

There also Fergus. Whose a bit more subtle with it. He uses the world wide woof for example, and is also seen as one of the dogs.

9:28 PM · Jun 27, 2021 "fergus is like spot for cis people"

Maybe it's just that he's species non-conforming. Who knows?

Also they put a lot of bisexual undertones in street, especially with Dylan, who gets a Poodle girlfriend and also steals his sister's man at the end of an episode.

6:22 PM · Jun 27, 2021 "WHAT DO YOU MEAN AFTER HITTING IT OFF WITH DOLLY'S CRUSH DYLAN IS GETTING A GIRLFRIEND"
6:23 PM · Jun 27, 2021
"
thanks for making the dogs all bisexual i guess?"
6:24 PM · Jun 27, 2021
"
bisexual dog in need of a goth poodle gf"
6:31 PM · Jun 27, 2021
"THE POODLE IS YANDERE?"

The relationship stuff 

Both shows also have a LOT of characters. Street does a better job at introducing these characters, as in Series, they just Show Up one day.

4:38 PM · Dec 26, 2020 "they keep introducing random characters it's weird."

This may be due to weird airing orders in Series, as I know that is a recurring problem with Disney. However, I don't know the production order, so I don't have the slightest as to when characters get introduced.

Street does a better job as establishing character across episodes. Dylan is an anxious wreck. Dolly is a big sister. Dante is the goth one, Da Vinci is an artist, there's three dogs named Dimitri and they're the same.

6:12 PM · Dec 26, 2020 "looking down the line a little... apparently there are THREE dogs in 101 dalmatian street named dimitri...."

And every time you meet these characters you know that! Street even has an episode that shows the characters dreams and its all very clear despite there being so many dalmatians. Also some characters get multiple dreams for some reason.

9:35 PM · Jun 27, 2021 "why does dylan get two dreams i dont respect him"

But really, none of this matters. What matters is "How did theses shows do Cruella De Vil?" Because they're very different. The original movie has her demented and out for puppy blood.

Series makes her a better person. Street makes her unbelievably worse.

Cruella's motivations in Series are less about fashion (though she is still a fashion head) and more about land ownership. All her plots are about trying to find loopholes in the farm deed, such as a 101 pets rule. She's a lot more cartoony in this version too, and a bit of a loser, so naturally, she's my favorite of the two.

5:09 PM · Dec 26, 2020 "cruella purchases fast food and disguises it as her own cooking"

She also has a niece named Ivy, a girl who acts sweet, but is just as nasty as Cruella and often tries to get the puppies in trouble. My only memories of this show from my childhood are of Ivy.

In Street, Cruella is a more mysterious entity. She's out for revenge on the descendants of the dogs who wronged her. She's a lot older and a lot scarier, even when she's not in the shadows.

10:07 PM · Jun 27, 2021 "cruella gross up close up... by god the only reason i'm going thru this arc is bc i NEED to know how this show does cruella bc she is the only character here who matters."
10:10 PM · Jun 27, 2021
"
they made her a horror movie character"

Much like her niece Ivy, Cruella enlists the help of her grand-nephew, Hunter. But unlike Ivy, Hunter is the main antagonist through most of the series. I'd honestly argue that at his worse, Hunter in Street is worse than Cruella in Series, having plots to starve the dogs, amongst other things.

[Image ID: A screencap of Hunter De Vil with short hair from 101 Dalmatian Street playing with his phone. /End ID]
 

In the middle of the series, they put Hunter in a box for six months. This is the turning point for his character.

[Image ID: A screencap of Hunter de Vil with long hair from 101 Dalmatian Street. He's holding a gun. /End ID]

He gets a lot more unhinged after this and shows off dog traits. No. This one isn't transgender this is clearly a child experiencing trauma of being locked in a box for six months.

But what they do after a point is give Hunter a redemption arc. We soon learn how scary and abusive Cruella is to Hunter.

10:04 PM · Jun 27, 2021 "this would probably be so meaningful if the rest of the ep didn't play this as a joke and also she LITERALLY CALLED HIM A SNOWFLAKE"

[Image ID: A screencap featuring a close up of Hunter's face. He is crying and his pupils are shaped like Cruella de Vil /End ID]

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's very weird because Street sometimes plays the abuse straight while other times plays it as a joke. I suppose they were trying to do what they did with Lena de Spell in Ducktales, but it lands horribly. And Yes I Made Several Tweets About It.

8:02 PM · Jun 27, 2021 "im gonna say it hunter:ivy::lena:minima"
10:18 PM · Jun 27, 2021
"
oh they're really going to make hunter redeem himself AFTER he commits crimes against humanity?"
10:18 PM · Jun 27, 2021 "
he had no problem dehydrating and starving the puppies but killing them???? that's no good???? i get you're doing a lena thing or whatever but oh my god"
10:23 PM · Jun 27, 2021
"
they could have killed her. they should have."
10:29 PM · Jun 27, 2021
"
well the cruella mythos was interesting. i dont know how i feel about hunter's redemption, considering his treatment in the narrative as an abusive victim seesaws between hawhaw and upsetting"
12:08 AM · Jun 28, 2021
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there is little to be gained from hunter's redemption, and his abuse is so on and off. the same can be said about the living conditions of the pups. otherwise, a lot could be done better, but it does cute very well, with a lot of the littler puppies being faves."

Something really interesting about both of these series is that live action movies were made around this time as well. Series had the live action 101 Dalmatians movie, which, admittedly, I have never seen. But it does lean hard into fashion and I believe it's where the Cruella is Anita's boss piece of canon comes from, which is a big thing in series.

Street has Cruella. I also have never seen Cruella. Cruella did come out after street instead of before, so Street!Cruella isn't inspired at all by Cruella!Cruella. But from what I do know about Cruella, the movie, they're basically opposites.

12:22 AM · Jun 28, 2021 "There’s a little whiplash between Disney making media of a woman abusive to her grand nephew and then making her a sympathetic girlboss"

Overall, I liked Series more than I liked Street, but again, not by much. Street had better story and characters overall, but Series had a couple fun characters I enjoyed, and also no poorly written abuse narrative and redemption arc.

Overall Rating for 101 Dalmatians the Series: C Tier

Overall Rating for 101 Dalmatian Street: C Tier as Well

Thursday, May 26, 2022

Wow! Three Whole Seasons of The Proud Family! (Another Double Feature)

5:25 PM · May 9, 2022 "things i have learned about proud family lore
-kyla pratt exists and she looks just like penny proud.
-god is real"

5:27 PM · May 9, 2022
"god is real and we don't know for sure if he's the christian god but he seems to accept worship from christians at this one church"

I feel like a lot of people talk about Proud Family. Just off the top of my head, there's a whole lot to say about this show. And these are just videos I've watched. There's a ton more if you just look up "Proud Family analysis" on youtube. I think it's worth noting that the Proud Family, and Louder and Prouder do have some serious issues with racism and colorism with characters like the Chang Triplets, Dijonay, the Gross Sisters, etc. Which. Yeah. It's bad, and I think it's worth knowing about. Though I'm not gonna go in a huge amount of details because I am the whitest white guy imaginable, and there are many video essays on these topics already by people who know a lot better than I do, so I would say check those out if you want discussion there.

Focusing on the show as a whole, when I watched it the first time around, I wasn't super fond of Penny's friends, preferring stories that focus on the family, or have Sticky in them.

9:49 AM · Jan 9, 2021 "man the start of this ep has the just prouds + sticky... the perfect episode...."

Naturally, one of my favorite episodes is "The Altos," where Sticky's parents get divorced and he falls into a bad group while Oscar tries to give him some man-to-man support. Unfortunately, Sticky uses this to cheat at a scavenger hunt Oscar is sponsoring. By the end though, things work out well and Sticky gets better. It's a very down to earth episode and has a really good dynamic between Oscar and Sticky.

I think a lot of the best episodes are the ones where people aren't unnecessarily rude to one another and can bounce off each other well. 

I noticed that a lot of season 2 episodes have characters treating each other a lot worse than in season 1, with episodes like "Pulp Boot Camp" and "There's Something About Rene" having members of the family pretend that other members don't exist (Penny in "Pulp Boot Camp," Trudy in "There's Something About Rene"). Ignoring the sad implications of that, I think it kind of hinders the interactions these characters can have.

I think "The Party" shows some pretty good character interaction. Penny and LaCienega throw two parties the same evening, and all of Penny's friends ditch, leaving Penny's party with only Myron, the Gross Sisters, and Lou Rawls. Dijonay and Zoey are assholes in this episode, but it makes sense for them to be and gives us some really fun dynamics as you can realize why each person does what they do.

9:57 AM · Jan 9, 2021 "man like i get that dijonay is childhood friends with lacienega too just as much as penny but you promised to go to penny's party wtf"
9:59 AM · Jan 9, 2021
"trudy's really calling penny a fake friend because she doesn't wanna hang out with the gross sisters or myron. the gross sisters bully her and myron wrecked her social status those are NOT friends."
10:01 AM · Jan 9, 2021
"
nubia gettin along w suga mama and lou rawls is really great tho"

Penny's friends are selfish. Penny doesn't like any of the people who came to her party because of how they treated her in the past. Odd friendships are formed. The show doesn't have to be super nice, but I think the cruelty of it all has to make sense.

Kindness is a nice addition though, and "Hmmm, Tastes Like..." is one of the better examples of that. The episode has Oscar and Suga Mama putting aside their differences and selling Suga Mama's Get Up N Go bars together. They bound through a love of entrepreneurship and snack selling, and even deny a deal with Wizard Kelly after Suga Mama sings a song from The Wiz, a musical I had an opportunity to see, but ultimately didn't, as my friend opted to take me to see a Jerome Robbins anthology. I didn't like it. Anyway, the episode ends with Suga Mama telling everyone her "secret ingredient," and grossing people out. It's a very sweet and natural episode.

"Makeover" is another one I enjoyed a lot. The girls give Zoey a makeover, and Nubia, seeing this, makes them give her sister, Olei one as well.

2:22 PM · Jan 9, 2021 "i rlly like olei i wish she spoke" 

Though Olei doesn't speak as much (mostly Nubia speaks for her), we do see a lot of character in her silence, and a lot of kindness come through. The episode ends with her deciding to think for herself more and wanting to treat Penny and her friends with kindness.

This, unfortunately, does not stick. But they're middle school kids. Shit like that never sticks when you're in the 8th grade.

A lot of Proud Family episodes centered around Penny trying to respect people, like "Culture Shock," the episode where the kids swap families.

3:58 PM · Jan 9, 2021 "i mean LOGICALLY, the gross sisters and the chang triplets should have swapped"
4:10 PM · Jan 9, 2021
"
whose idea was it to have a cultural exchange during ramadan"

Penny swaps with Radika Zamin, and while she clashes with the family at first, she learns to embrace their culture and the Prouds celebrate Eid al-Fitr with the Zamins, only to see the Zamins get hatecrimed (their home is graffiti'd on) when they returns home. It's actually an episode I remember watching as a little kid and thinking about after the fact.

"Who Are You Callin' A Sissy" also has this Penny doing the right thing, but this time with homophobia. Of course, this was the early 2000s, so Disney couldn't necessarily say gay, but we all knew about Michael so like.

11:13 AM · Aug 8, 2021 "i get lacienega being homophobic but sticky.... jfc"
11:25 AM · Aug 8, 2021
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i always forget how fantastical proud family is. it's a pretty chill slice of life show but just often enough something fucked up happens like penny learns how to talk to animals or michael turns into the hulk"

It's a lot less serious than "Culture Shock" especially considering Michael ends the episode turning into the heterophobic hulk, but I want to put a pin in the gay discussion and focus on something else the Proud Family does.

In my Doug post, I mentioned shows that are slice of life, but still very fantastical. A lot of the shows of this time stick with a gimmick. That's So Raven was a slice of life show about a psychic. Kim Possible was a slice of life show about a bond-style teen hero. Lloyd in Space was a slice of life show about an alien. Phil of the Future was a slice of life show about... Gee I wonder what Phil of the Future's gimmick was...

Proud Family didn't really have a gimmick so much as it had various fantastical things happening in it. I think the best comparison of this style is Quack Pack, where the show is very much about family and home life, but is absolutely insane. I think the main difference is the Quack Pack was a fantastical show first and a slice of life cartoon second, while Proud Family is a slice of life cartoon first and a fantastical show second. 

Proud Family will give you an episode about Penny going on a date with a boy or worried her father is having an affair, but it'll also give you an episode about how Penny can talk to animals or how her telekinetic great aunt is using her real telekinesis to con people.

Also there's Johnny Lovely.

4:51 PM · May 9, 2022 "johnny lovely is someone the girlprince crowd would look at and say "i wanna be him but a lesbian""
5:01 PM · May 9, 2022
"
johnny lovely doxxed all the girls at school"
5:02 PM · May 9, 2022
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i feel like oscar is the only character who understands the rammifications of this"
5:13 PM · May 9, 2022
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your name is literally lacienega boulevardez you cannot be mean to the guy whose name is a street."

While I did enjoy Proud Family enough to watch the full series, I was absolutely stoned out of my shit when I watched the Johnny Lovely episode, and for some reason got it in my brain that there was an alternate cut of Johnny Lovely, which I spent more time than I would like to admit looking for.

Anyway let's talk about the reboot.

It's better.

It feels like they tackled some (but not all) of the issues people had with the original series, something I had not seen a reboot do other than Ducktales 2017. Penny's friends are somewhat kinder, especially Dijonay. The Gross Sisters are less thieves and more upcoming musicians. (Though this change is rather shallow. They're still doing the same thing they were.) The Oscar and Suga Mama dynamic feels a lot more balanced.

Sticky Webb was pretty much removed from the show and replaced with two new characters: KG and Maya Leibowitz-Jenkins. You'd think this would upset me, since Sticky was a character I really liked in the original series, but I actually really enjoyed these two. They're kind of like if you split Sticky into two new characters, KG being the helpful techie, and Maya being more of the cold straight man character (though like Sticky, not always) and actively in the friendgroup.

The Maya and Penny dynamic is pretty fun, as is the Maya and LaCienega dynamic. The former has the two butting heads, while the latter is an odd friendship as their parents are coworkers and they're both rivals to Penny. I hope to see Maya and LaCienega being friends in season 2.

Character dynamics are also a lot better in the reboot. One issue I had with Proud Family, especially later episodes was that the series oscillated between being about Penny or Oscar. This was fixed with the movie, as it was about both of the them, and it seems like the reboot is keeping this up, with their relationship (arguably the most important relationship in the series) being strong and allowing them and their stories in the episode to play off one another.

The reboot actually made Oscar more of an asshole, which I think was desperately needed. Of course Oscar has always been an asshole, but in the original series, he is the protagonist for a bunch of the episodes, so it feels more like you're supposed to root for him. This series makes it clear that he kind of sucks and deserves some of the shit he goes through.

"Father Figures" is the biggest example of that. This is probably the most infamous episode, being another anti-homophobia episode, this time about Maya and KG having two fathers. Oscar goes in to get a loan for an amusement park, and the man he's meeting with is his neighbor Randall. When he sees Randall's husband, Barry, his eyes break and he goes into full homophobic mode. This causes Randall to take back the loan, and Oscar's family to look down on him, especially Penny, who has learned to respect others. By the end of the episode, Oscar does learn the error of his ways, and gets what he wants. It's simple but I am simple myself, so I'm happy with Oscar not being homophobic anymore.

1:36 PM · Jan 9, 2021 "ignoring the one off comment by penny in the altos i think the proud family (all of them) are lgbt allies. i think oscar gives away proud snax at pride"

If this doesn't happen in season 2 now that Oscar got cured of homophobia I will riot.

"Father Figures" is a weird episode because 17 years prior we got "Who You Callin A Sissy," which focused on homophobia too, just not by name. "Father Figures" is also a pretty typical anti-homophobia episode, though taken more seriously than "Who You Callin A Sissy." I think after 17 years, I was expecting something a little more nuanced than being gay is bad. Especially considering a lot of the comments were about things like shipping. I actually thought the episode was going to be more about invading the privacy of gay people as a guise for allyship? Or something like that. A friend of mine commented that Louder and Prouder still feels like an early aughts relic and I think this episode makes it most evident.

Really, Louder and Prouder feels like a third season of the Proud Family, and it kind of is. It improved on things it needed to. It's still crazy and all over the place. Al Roker still grants evil wishes.. Lizzo is there singing a poorly censored version of Good as Hell.

Some of the background kids are different. Penny's got a new boyfriend: Kareem, but you don't see characters like the Chang Triplets or Omar or Duke. You see Frankie though, which is like. Okay.

I guess my biggest problem with the reboot is Michael. Like I'm happy to see a character actually say they're GNC and gay on a kid show, but at the same time, he's a lot meaner? And not in a fun way. I feel like every snide comment Michael says feels like he's punching down a lot, and really only gets flack for it once. I dunno. I think I liked him better in the original series.

Also, I may be crazy, but is Dijonay giving off bi vibes to anyone else in the reboot? I feel like she's gonna come out in season 2.

The reboot gave me a lot to think about for the Proud Family. Finishing the series I found the original wasn't as good as I thought (though it was still good), while the reboot landed in the place I saw the original as. But I've still only seen 10 episodes of the reboot, so I'll be coming back to it.

Overall Rating for the Proud Family: A Tier

Rating for The Proud Family: Louder and Prouder: A Tier also

Also the season three hype train for Amphibia slowed down a bit ending with a mid finale, so time for a new Tiermaker! Updating Proud Family and Amphibia and adding Louder and Prouder!

[Image ID: A Tiermaker of Disney Cartoons. S Tier includes Motorcity, Fillmore, Wander over Yonder, The Weekenders, Elena of Avalor, Kim Possible, and Darkwing Duck. A Tier includes Sofia the First, Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure, Recess, Nightmare Ned, The 7D, Phineas and Ferb, Big City Greens, Higglytown Heroes, The Proud Family: Louder and Prouder, Lilo and Stitch, Milo Murphy's Law, The Rocketeer, The Proud Family, Muppet Babies, House of Mouse, Buzz Lightyear of Star Command, and Penn Zero Part Time Hero. B tier includes Pepper Ann, Amphibia, Ducktales 2017, Special Agent Oso, Star Darlings, The Owl House, Doc McStuffins, Randy Cunningham, Aladdin, Goldie and Bear, Teamo Supremo, Big Hero 6, Emperor's New School, Doug, Talespin, Mickey Mouse's Mixed Up Adventures, Gargoyles, Handy Manny, Legend of the Three Caballeros, Gravity Falls, and Little Einsteins. C tier includes Mira Royal Detective, Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers, Madeline, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Dave The Barbarian, Lloyd in Space, Mighty Ducks, Vampirina, Fish Hooks, Rolie Polie Olie, Gummi Bears, TOTS, Billy Dilley, PB&J Otter, Jungle Cubs, Stitch and Ai, Jojo's Circus, 101 Dalmatians, The Replacements, Goof Troop, Super Robot Monkey Team, American Dragon, Chicken Squad, Clerks, Brandy and Mr Whiskers, 101 Dalmatian Street, and New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. D tier includes Lion Guard, My Friends Tigger and Pooh, Kick Buttowski, Puppy Dog Pals, Star Vs., Jungle Junction, Tarzan, Pickle and Peanut, Monsters at Work, TRON, Ducktales 1987, Teacher's Pet, Little Mermaid, Jake and the Neverland Pirates, Fancy Nancy, Quack Pack, Sheriff Callie, and Stanley. E Tier includes The Buzz on Maggie, Miles from Tomorrowland, Raw Toonage, Timon and Pumbaa, Bonkers, Get Ed, The Wuzzles, and Henry Hugglemonster. F tier includes Future Worm, Yin Yang Yo, Shnookums and Meat, Hercules, Stitch, Marsupilami, and Space Chickens in Space. /End ID]


Monday, May 16, 2022

Nightmare Ned: A Rude, but Respectably Resilient Character who also Thinks About Gender

11:34 AM · Dec 29, 2020"weird al coded"

[Image ID: A screencap of Ned from Nightmare Ned playing the accordion miserably. /End ID]



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

11:41 AM · Dec 29, 2020 "my mutuals who love weird al vs my mutuals who have declared weird al their enemy"

[Image ID: Two screencaps. The left screencap has Ned and his mother happily playing accordion together. The right screencap shows Ned's father, covering his ears. /End ID]



 

 

 

 

 

 

We finally got to a show that I liked enough to watch to the end that I hadn't seen already. Too bad it's only 13 episodes.

It makes sense why it's good, though. We have creatives from Rugrats, Spongebob, and various Dreamworks films here. As someone who grew up with all those things, it makes sense that my own sense of humor would mesh well with the show. But at the same time, creative differences and overbudgeting seem to have been its downfall. At least you still get a good show out of it. That they only air once... And never again...

Nightmare Ned was supposed to be a franchise, and I'm sure failed franchises are nothing new to Disney. In the Disney watch alone we will be seeing another one. One a bit more outwardly catastrophic than this one, but that's a ways away.

But usually if you bring up Nightmare Ned to someone, they talk about the computer game, which, while having a similar premise, is a bit different aesthetically speaking.

The nightmares in Nightmare Ned the game are a bit more grotesque, with a sort of collage style. The different "levels" in the game also represent different themes: school, doctors, puberty, the unknown, and death. There's also some songs in the game and they're all bops.

The show on the other hand doesn't really have overarching themes, as it's an episodic series. However, every one of these themes from the game is touched upon in at least one episode, for better or for worse. Nightmare Ned doesn't really stand out artistically either, opting for normal visuals with occasional brighter colors. A lot of primary and secondary colors are used for some of the more surreal nightmares. The greens in "Ants" particularly speak to me!

[Image ID: A screencap of Ned's father looking excited while Ned looks worried. The background is various shades of red while Ned and his father are various shades of green. /End ID]

Meanwhile the real world is a lot more realistic looking and muted. The use of colors isn't a huge thing in every episode, but the ones where it is are an absolute delight.

12:06 PM · Dec 26, 2020 "i love the colors in this one. so muted but also so fun....."

Ultimately, this makes the show a lot more "normie" than one may believe a lost media cartoon called "Nightmare Ned" would be, but I don't mind that too much. There's still a dark undertone I can appreciate.

11:53 AM · Dec 26, 2020 "i think you can describe nightmare ned as like "goth media" stuff like growing up creepie or invader zim or ruby gloom but it's more atmospheric instead of character based."
12:16 PM · Dec 26, 2020 "nightmare ned isn't really overly surreal but i guess it's surreal and entertaining enough? i can't really think of reasons why i like it i just do. it doesn't really have any dislikeable qualities, and the flaws only make it more fun"

While I discussed cartoons with fantastical elements in my last post, this one doesn't really step far outside the realm of reality save in the dream spots. The weirdest we get is subversions of the premise. For example, an episode may be someone else's dream instead of Ned's, as is the case in at least one episode.

The premise isn't anything new either. There's a ton of media about some kid working stuff out through dreams. 

11:43 AM · Dec 26, 2020 ""my child is fine" your child has vivid nightmares every night"
12:22 PM · Dec 26, 2020
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nightmare ned appeal is that it has a very similar plot to 5000 fingers of dr t i just realized it."

Despite everything, the show is really good, and it's hard to explain why. Ned as a character is very likable at times and unlikable at other times.

11:26 AM · Dec 26, 2020 "ned is kind of a jerk"
12:11 PM · Dec 26, 2020
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ned is such a dislikeable character but it's kinda in a funny way. ned just like.... "freaks ride the school bus" fuck you maybe you deserve nightmares."
12:30 PM · Dec 26, 2020
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he's been complaining about the ghost stories the whole time i think that's funny and neat"
12:56 PM · Dec 26, 2020
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ned being critical of horror is probably my favorite thing about him"

The more I think about it, the more I think it's a smart move. He doesn't really get along with girls, he thinks that only weirdos take the bus, and he can be a little annoying, so seeing him get pushed around doesn't feel entirely unfair. At the same time though, he has relatable qualities too. Despite all his fears he's pretty critical of the horror genre, he can keep cool when he needs to and is surprisingly good with coping with his problems, and he has an interesting relationship about gender. A lot of these qualities make you want to cheer Ned on even when he's a little bit of a jerk.

Wait. What was that about gender?

12:32 PM · Dec 26, 2020 "the two genders"

[Image ID: A screencap of two bathroom doors. One is for people with heads. One is for headless people. A hand is approached the door for people with heads. /End ID]



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have to talk about "Girl Trouble." I don't know if it's my favorite episode of Nightmare Ned, but it's probably the most well known. After Conrad and Vernon (who, by the way are named after Conrad Vernon, who co-directed films like Shrek 2, Monsters vs. Aliens... sausage party.... the.... addams... family... movies....) trick Ned into using the girl's room, Ned has a dream that he is a girl, and has to convince people that he's actually a boy.

It's... Surprisingly Transgender?

1:34 PM · Dec 26, 2020 "the style change...... (this nightmare has ned as a girl. kinda interested in the takes ned has on gender.)"
[Image ID: A screencap of Ned from Nightmare Ned as a girl, with blue hair and red overalls and a red bow. The style looks somewhat anime-esque. /End ID]



 

 

 

 

 

 

 



1:38 PM · Dec 26, 2020
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ok ned shows no interest in men either. i guess he just hates women"
1:40 PM · Dec 26, 2020
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hilda but fucked up"
[Image ID: A screen of Ned from Nightmare Ned as a girl next to a picture of Hilda from Hilda. /End ID]



 

 

 

 


1:43 PM · Dec 26, 2020
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i think ned walked away from this experience with a better understanding of gender."

In the end, Ned learns to use femininity to his advantage and learns to enjoy it, and the episode ends with the very open ended line "Dear Diary, I just had the strangest dream. It made me feel kind of funny."

There's a lot of different interpretations of this episode. Something for trans men. (The scenes in the dream definitely feel like a transmasc struggle.) Something for trans women. (Ned embracing being a girl and not knowing what to make of it.) Something for nonbinary folks like myself. (Ned just thinking about gender in general and coming to decisions later in life.) I am almost entirely certain that wasn't intentional from anyone on the crew, but man, this 90s cartoon really does feel better than the trans rep in cartoons we're getting now.

Also, starting this episode I started making jokes about Ned's dad being an intense trans ally. I personally think it's funny, especially considering that the usual thing to do in fandom circles when there's a cis dude you don't like is act like they're transphobic. I just thought it'd be funny to do the opposite of that, considering dream!Ned's dad was a lot more accepting of Ned being a boy than his mom (bar is on the floor).

1:36 PM · Dec 26, 2020 "HI? going a little cazy bc ned's dad is more trans friendly than his mom"
1:42 PM · Dec 26, 2020
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on behalf of the trans community, thank you, you disgusting creature."
[Image ID: A screencap of Ned's dad holding an ant farm and wearing an ant hat. Ned looks concerned. /End ID]



 

 

 

 

 

11:29 AM · Dec 29, 2020 "that's his gun he shoots transphobes with"
[Image ID: A screencap of Ned's father aiming a bazooka /End ID]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had a lot of recurring gags with this show. Before trans Ned, there was Gay Ned.

11:57 AM · Dec 26, 2020 "he can save only one companion. his faithful dog spot or his beautiful girlfriend. which shall it be? UGH! the answer's so obvious! save the dog!"
[Image ID: A screencap of Ned Needlemeyer next to a colorpicked gay pride flag. /End ID]



 

 

 

 


12:42 PM · Dec 26, 2020
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nightmare about ned going thru puberty.... finally the nightmare where ned realizes he is gay" 

There was the amount of times I wish Ned would swear, only for him to do it, Live On Stage, during "Steamed Vegetables.

1:00 PM · Dec 26, 2020 "LET NED SAY FUCK"
1:01 PM · Dec 26, 2020
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ned fucking snapped at a cowboy"
11:31 AM · Dec 29, 2020
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i love how close this show gets to swearing. this was the edgy disney cartoon here"
11:54 AM · Dec 29, 2020 "veggietales are PISSED OFF"

[Image ID: A screencap of a crowd of angry vegetables. /End ID]


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

12:06 PM · Dec 29, 2020
"NED CUSSED"

I'd actually like to put a couple links here to some of these. The cowboy thing is from "Show Me The Infidel," and it honestly feels like the most passionate line I've heard in any of these shows. Also here is Ned swearing. I've had preteens tell me "suck" isn't a bad word anymore back in the mid to late 2010s when I told them not to swear, but man I still got in trouble with my friends' parents for using it so it counts.

Oh yeah uh. I said I'd bring up recurring elements of One Saturday Morning era. Courtland Mead? Yeah he shows up a lot. We're gonna see him again with leading roles in Recess and Lloyd in Space.

Anything else? Well there's an episode where Ned goes to Canada which is funny because I watched it shortly before moving to Canada myself.

1:47 PM · Dec 26, 2020 "oh this ep has ned immigrating just like me!!!"

Overall, I think what makes Nightmare Ned the series so appealing to me is the off the wall settings, the colors and aesthetics, and the humor. But it's a lot like the stuff I was raised on, so of course I'd enjoy it! Hell, it just barely missed the top ten for me! anyway stream rat tango bye

Overall Rating for Nightmare Ned: A Tier